The non-hostile Apple OSX vs. Windows Vista OS debate, Part I

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I invited four geeks, representing both sides of the OS aisle. First is Fred Davis, co-founder of Wired Magazine. Second is Harry McCracken, editor in chief of PC World. Third is Sam Levin, founder of Stanford Mac User Group, among other Mac things. Fourth is Jeremy Toeman who worked at Sling Media when I first met him.

Maryam (my wife) and I fed the group burritos and then kicked off the debate. We recorded two hours of this (this segment is the first hour — second installment here), no demos, so you can run it in the background and listen to it. Special prize (our undying respect) goes to anyone who watches all two hours of this.

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31 Responses to “The non-hostile Apple OSX vs. Windows Vista OS debate, Part I”

  1. FredTime Stories » Blog Archive » The Never-Ending Story: Mac OSX vs. Windows Vista Webcast Says:

    […] Part 1 - Click here to watch the first hour on PodTech. […]

  2. gllen Says:

    Jeremy Toemans idea about the dual monitor laptop at the end of this is fantastic!

  3. Tad Says:

    Is there any way to download the scoble show ?

  4. Tad Says:

    Nevermind, I’m a blind goat :D

  5. nungee Says:

    thanks for this. i am 20 minutes into the talk now and I keep thinking: I’d love to hear you guys also talk about Linux and how it fits into all this. Or OSs in general.

  6. The Pond » Videos on the web: the next 2.0 territory? Says:

    […] Maybe this is a very late follow-on to the dustup between Scoble and Engadget that stormed the blogs last week. Or was it this weekend. Who cares. Anyway, the point is. Scoble posted about some Vista vs. OSX videos (see how easy it is to link. Just Ctrl-Shift-L in TextMate ) this morning or last night or something. […]

  7. Yex Says:

    I’m sorry to say that I was really disappointed with this video. I was really hoping to learn more about the differences between Vista and OS X. Unfortunately, I found it to be more like chasing white rabbits. The conversation got REALLY off-track for most of the hour. It started out as a focused discussion of the merits and differences between Vista and OS X, but ended up being an exhaustive venting session about the evils of DRM, and discussions of video codecs, IP TV, etc.

    I’m not trying to be mean here, so please don’t take it that way, but for what this video was advertised as, I really feel like it was misleading, and that I wasted an hour listening to it and not really understanding hardly any more than I did before about the differences between Vista and OS X.

  8. chris hollander Says:

    i agree with yex; the only conclusion that i can draw from this meeting is that OS is irrelevant, and DRM and HD video is all thats really important.

    ironic, since the publisher of the video has a vested interest in delivering videos.

    also, there were so many inaacuracies throughout the conversation… did i hear this wrong? or did someone actually try to say that copy paste works better on a mac than a PC? are you kidding me??

    agreed, apple stores absolutely demolish best buy… but that has nothing to do with OSX vs. Vista.

  9. Kevin Says:

    In contrast to the two above comments, I quite enjoyed the sidetracks and off-track conversation. However, perhaps the video would be more appropriately titled something which does not suggest only Vista v. OSX.

    Maybe you could have “Conversations with Geeks” on a regular basis?

  10. Mozey Says:

    oh, here is a hot selling calender. (THE MAC VS PC DEBATE HUNKS) LOOOL i was SHOCKED to see a women. Not missing any of her arms or legs either!. And yes, i did get my calender joke from friends.

  11. Jeremy Toeman’s LIVEdigitally » Blog Archive » Scobleized whilst en Vacaciones Says:

    […] In a post just before my vacation, I mentioned a video Robert Scoble shot of a few of us chatting about the age-old Mac vs PC debate.  Well, it’s online in its entirety (hour 1 and hour 2) and I think the part I’ve enjoyed the most is reading the comments written across the blogs who covered it (Scobleizer, Harry McCracken, Fred Davis, and especially Josh Catone - Josh, I’d be happy to debate the IPTV/DVR/TV2.0 topic any time!).  The good, the bad, and the ugly.  Thanks to Robert and the gang for the very interesting evening, and thanks to everyone who has taken the time to watch the action. […]

  12. Jeremy Toeman’s LIVEdigitally » Blog Archive » Is TV really opening up soon? Says:

    […] In my Mac-PC video debate last month, Fred Davis and I diverted to talking about broadcast vs IPTV delivered television, which Josh Catone chimed in on in his blog as well.  I believe the future on this topic is going to be determined primarily from an economic basis.  At present, we have the infrastructure in place where, if desired, every single household in the US can watch the same TV show live in real-time.  Broadcasting of content requires no new infrastructure build-out (unless, of course, we want a lot more HD stuff, which, of course, we do).  Doing the same thing over IP networks wouldn’t work, and wouldn’t even come close. […]

  13. Chris W Says:

    I really enjoyed that and as a long time Windows user (over 15 years) it was nice to hear about the history of MS and Apple.

    Perhaps I need to get out more?

    I’m off to buy a MacBook.

  14. Anonymous Says:

    please oh please use a video player that keeps buffering while the video is paused.. it is very very qnnoying to stop for buffering every 15 seconds (I am on a so called broadband connection here in smalltown India…)

  15. Anonymous Says:

    please dont laugh so loudly.. the random loud laugh is very very jarring

  16. Anonymous Says:

    is ther an mp3 version available?

  17. Hal Roach Says:

    The production is awful. For a bunch of propeller heads, you’d think one of them would think to run a test for sound levels and whether to fire up another light bulb.

    Really, really, really awful.

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